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LingChi- Chapter 5

Postby Stormwing on Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:17 am

Hehe it wasn't just a stash of secret weapons, it was the Motherlode of secret weapons. Since the majority of that stuff the Goa'uld wouldn't know about or have only encountered rarely if ever, it would be highly effective against them. That is if the government doesn't get itself in a heap of trouble by playing with things they don't understand simply cause they get too greedy.

Omg I just want to hug Helen to bits :D I'm really liking this old battle axe. I wonder if she is gonna get offered a place at the SGC.... :P


Just a few small things at the end.
They escaped from Earth. They were killed....

Yes, I know it. From what we could tell, it appeared to be one of the original structures."

Daniel nodded. "I think that when the stele was made, that building was one of the only one here."

this bit confused me it might just be a misplaced letter or two, then again that's all it takes to turn a sentence on its head.

This is turning out to be a great piece, Daniel actually dealing with everything that happened to him in some manner instead of just glossing over it like what happened during season 6 onwards.

As a glowbug he was a little (just a little) too stoic, I mean seriously if Daniel was in his right mind he wouldn't have offered Jack ascension. As for when he came back and got all the memories returned it was like they were just movie clips he was watching.

lol okay I've finished my rant. :P

keep up the good work. ^
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Re: LingChi- Chapter 5

Postby MaureenT on Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:22 pm

Stormwing wrote:Hehe it wasn't just a stash of secret weapons, it was the Motherlode of secret weapons. Since the majority of that stuff the Goa'uld wouldn't know about or have only encountered rarely if ever, it would be highly effective against them. That is if the government doesn't get itself in a heap of trouble by playing with things they don't understand simply cause they get too greedy.

Actually, most of the things aren't weapons, but it's still the Motherlode, and, as you'll find out in the next chapter, is going to be of tremendous help not just in the fighting but in saving lives. As for the government, well, let's just say that there will be an issue or two.

Stormwing wrote:Omg I just want to hug Helen to bits :D I'm really liking this old battle axe. I wonder if she is gonna get offered a place at the SGC.... :P

Battle axe. I love that. It's a good description. She is a force to be reckoned with, that's for sure. She's also not going to let Daniel belittle his accomplishments.

Her age would work against her on the matter of getting offered a job, although Catherine was older than her when she worked on the original project. Regardless, with Helen's attitude about the military, she would never accept a job working for them.

Stormwing wrote:This is turning out to be a great piece, Daniel actually dealing with everything that happened to him in some manner instead of just glossing over it like what happened during season 6 onwards.

As a glowbug he was a little (just a little) too stoic, I mean seriously if Daniel was in his right mind he wouldn't have offered Jack ascension. As for when he came back and got all the memories returned it was like they were just movie clips he was watching.

lol okay I've finished my rant. :P

keep up the good work. ^

Rant away. I know just what you mean. At the end of S5, Daniel was at the bottom of the barrel, thinking that his whole life was a failure. Yet, in S7, he seemed to be fine. So, what changed? Except for what happened on Erebus, he has no memories of his ascended life, so, even if he came to grips with his feelings while ascended, he wouldn't remember that. So, what's the reason for his attitude change? I think that the writers decided to sweep Daniel's feelings of worthlessness under the carpet and just move on. It was only in Orpheus that we saw any hints of his former feelings, like when he told Teal'c that he used to feel like he didn't belong anywhere.

The way I'm doing it is more realistic. Daniel is actually going through a healing process, coming to terms with things that happened.
KANE: Do you ever give up?
DANIEL: Not until I'm dead . . . and sometimes not even then.
From the Stargate SG-1 episode "Ethon".
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Re: LingChi- Chapter 5

Postby DizzyDrea on Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:34 am

That Helen is a real pistol! The interesting thing about her is that she's not saying anything different than the rest of them have said, it's just that maybe he's
more ready to hear it now. And I think part of it, too, has always been that he feels a little like maybe his friends are supposed to say things like that, but coming from Helen, knowing there's no bullsh!t in her, he trusts it more.

At any rate, I agree that this fic is giving Daniel the time he needs to sort out his emotions and come to terms with his past and his place in the universe, if you'll forgive the pun. It's what I always assumed we were supposed to assume happened during Daniel's year as a "glowbug" (thanks, Stormwing, for the great euphamism!). Except that if you really sat back and thought about it, you'd realize that whatever theraputic value he derived from being ascended would have been lost along with his memories of that year...argh, I hate plot holes!

Sorry, didn't mean to get all crazy, there. It's late here...I should probably sign off and get the sleep it appears I desperatly need. Great chapter...can't wait for the next one. :)
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Re: LingChi- Chapter 5

Postby MaureenT on Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:51 am

DizzyDrea wrote:That Helen is a real pistol! The interesting thing about her is that she's not saying anything different than the rest of them have said, it's just that maybe he's more ready to hear it now. And I think part of it, too, has always been that he feels a little like maybe his friends are supposed to say things like that, but coming from Helen, knowing there's no bullsh!t in her, he trusts it more.

You're right on both counts -- well, all three counts, I should say. Helen definitely is a pistol. |-D Daniel is in a better frame of mind now than he was before, so he's just a bit more willing to listen when people say things like that, but, at the same time, when his friends shower him with praise, like they did earlier in this chapter, he's not so willing to believe that they are right. He's thinking that they're his friends, and they're trying to make him feel better about himself, so they're just exaggerating. But he knows that Helen doesn't do things like that. She tells it like it is and doesn't give false compliments or stroke a person's ego.

But there's something else as well. Daniel can't escape Helen's logic with this situation. He was the one who enabled them to find that hidden cache of Goa'uld technology, and he did it all on his own. However, this is Daniel we're talking about, so you can bet that he's still making light of what he did. It might take more for him to even begin to feel proud of his accomplishment.

DizzyDrea wrote:At any rate, I agree that this fic is giving Daniel the time he needs to sort out his emotions and come to terms with his past and his place in the universe, if you'll forgive the pun. It's what I always assumed we were supposed to assume happened during Daniel's year as a "glowbug" (thanks, Stormwing, for the great euphamism!). Except that if you really sat back and thought about it, you'd realize that whatever theraputic value he derived from being ascended would have been lost along with his memories of that year...argh, I hate plot holes!

Yes, that's what I said in my reply to Stormwing. Any psychological therapy he got from being ascended would have been lost when he lost his memories of being ascended, so how could it still be benefiting him? Yet, I bet that, if you asked TPTB about this, that's exactly what they'd claim happened. I'd love to ask that question, see if that's what they said, then rebut it by presenting the logic that Daniel doesn't remember being ascended. It would be interesting to see what they said in reply.

DizzyDrea wrote:Sorry, didn't mean to get all crazy, there. It's late here...I should probably sign off and get the sleep it appears I desperatly need. Great chapter...can't wait for the next one. :)

I told Stormwing not to apologize, and that goes for you, too. I couldn't count the number of plot holes, timeline issues and illogical things in Stargate that have driven me nuts in the past, particularly when trying to resolve them while writing a fanfic.
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DANIEL: Not until I'm dead . . . and sometimes not even then.
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Re: LingChi- Chapter 5

Postby AlexMcpherson on Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:07 am

Just read this chapter. (It was bugging me, so I'm only upto C8 of Autumn... otherwise I'd have been upto C15 or so of Autumn again.)

Really good,but with autumn, I'm getting a bit too much 'touchy-feely' type of fanfic. After awhile it kinda slows me down. So it's good to see some not-so-touchy drama.

and for some reason I can't think of what to say. Hmm. Been way to long.
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Re: LingChi- Chapter 5

Postby MaureenT on Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:11 pm

AlexMcpherson wrote:Just read this chapter. (It was bugging me, so I'm only upto C8 of Autumn... otherwise I'd have been upto C15 or so of Autumn again.)

Really good,but with autumn, I'm getting a bit too much 'touchy-feely' type of fanfic. After awhile it kinda slows me down. So it's good to see some not-so-touchy drama.

and for some reason I can't think of what to say. Hmm. Been way to long.

Overdosing on the touchy-feely stuff, and you're only up to Chapter 8? You'd better pace yourself, Alex. You've still got 29 more chapters to go! |-D

You'll be happy to know that Chapter 6 of Lingchi will also be mostly drama.
KANE: Do you ever give up?
DANIEL: Not until I'm dead . . . and sometimes not even then.
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Re: LingChi- Chapter 5

Postby AlexMcpherson on Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:16 pm

Now there's a surprise. Get too much drama in real life with local hospitals being sh*t and the 30-mile-away hospital having to be the ones to sort things (There will be a lawsuit involved when things are sorted, and local GP's being billed for going private. My mum... the doctors at the good hospital have charged her all of £7 so far, nice little discount. without, it'd be into the thousands) so drama in stories has kinda put a damper on my like for fanfic lately. Only the really funny stuff would be attracting long-term reading sessions, but then I've tried to slug my way through to the happier chapters of Autumn, but, well, until the Egypt-themed halloween house with Jacob(?) in that sarcophagus, with recorded sounds and arabic or whatever thanks to Danny's language skillz...

damn, it's too late to start reading with gusto. (11:15pm here.)
Just when I found the incentive. :P
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